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Re: Whats going on.....

by Mr. Marty » Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:49 pm

wushuman wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:45 am It's all just a show, red vs blue, just like football. Oldest trick in the book,. Whoever is in charge YOU'LL be getting fucked, don't you worry.
Gotta agree with you on that. Up until 4 years ago I paid little attention to the news. When I wanted to start I found that there are no more news programs, only opinions based on fact. No news. It was difficult to find media that did not play to its audience fears and prejudges, and just report the facts. Still is. Now they only want to promote books written by their "experts"...or some pod cast.

Re: Whats going on.....

by Citizen Dolly » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:10 pm

Lasagna Pirate wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:26 pm So it looks to me Dolly, that you are the Left... there’s no moderates or middle there’s just you and The Right.

LoL
Essentially, yes. Property is either public or private. There is no real middle ground there. The alleged "centre" is objectively a means of preserving private property by softening some of its worst features (for example, by providing unemployment benefits) and preventing it from collapsing under the weight of the inequalities it generates. What it doesn't (and perhaps can't) do is address the root causes of those problems, because they're inherent to capitalism and private property. At best, social democracy is about amelioration of symptoms rather than effecting a cure. Certainly I can't think of any examples off the top of my head where a society has actually started progressing towards socialism from social democracy, if only because the CIA has a habit of destabilising and overthrowing those sorts of Left-leaning governments. By contrast the slide Rightwards from "the centre" is well-marked and painfully familiar. :-|

Re: Whats going on.....

by Ifunkus » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:17 pm

Lasagna Pirate wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:14 pm
Ifunkus wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:07 pm Trump 2024👍👌😂
Trump should run for a senate seat. Then become leader of the senate.
Then impeach Biden and Harris out of office.

Trump 2022
That would be the right job👍😂

Re: Whats going on.....

by Lasagna Pirate » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:14 pm

Ifunkus wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:07 pm Trump 2024👍👌😂
Trump should run for a senate seat. Then become leader of the senate.
Then impeach Biden and Harris out of office.

Trump 2022

Re: Whats going on.....

by Ifunkus » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:07 pm

Trump 2024👍👌😂

Re: Whats going on.....

by Lasagna Pirate » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:26 pm

So it looks to me Dolly, that you are the Left... there’s no moderates or middle there’s just you and The Right.

LoL

Re: Whats going on.....

by Citizen Dolly » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:37 pm

Lasagna Pirate wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:35 am The Right is controlling the narrative?
What.
Clearly. You think Rupert Murdoch is a communist? :lol:

All of these media conglomerates are capitalist organisations. They're inherently right-wing. The same is true (though for different reasons) of the various state broadcasters like the BBC: in the case of the BBC, the fact the government controls the funding - and appoints the Director General - leaves the BBC entirely at the mercy of the government. Again, in the case of the Beeb, they try to obscure this fact with a very loaded version of "balance" where comedy and light entertainment have a vaguely "left/liberal" bias while news and current affairs are preponderantly right-wing. Hell, many of the senior editors and journalists at the BBC are literal card-carrying members of the Conservative Party. You can see the bias of the current affairs department in, for example, the fact that UKIP were invited on to Newsnight 9 times more often than the Green Party, despite the fact they had the same number of MPs.

At any rate, few if any of the social / cultural "issues" that get any media attention are actually being pushed by the Left. These conflicts are actually between liberals and conservatives, and they're both right-wing positions. It's only in the warped and stunted political culture of the USA that liberalism can be seen in any sense as "left-wing" - and that's merely relative to the far-right tendencies of American conservatism.

I suppose the only other thing to add is that if some company "cancels" dealings with some "problematic" figure then that is actually just consumer capitalism working as it's supposed to, ie, businesses responding to customer demand. It's kind of absurd to suppose that entertainment businesses in particular have any great moral or political agenda: they're merely calculating that they can make more money by not dividing and alienating chunks of their potential audiences.

Re: Whats going on.....

by wushuman » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:45 am

It's all just a show, red vs blue, just like football. Oldest trick in the book,. Whoever is in charge YOU'LL be getting fucked, don't you worry.

Re: Whats going on.....

by Lasagna Pirate » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:14 am

Re: Whats going on.....

by Lasagna Pirate » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:35 am

The Right is controlling the narrative?
What.

Re: Whats going on.....

by Citizen Dolly » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:25 pm

Lazy re-post of old FB rant:
Anyone throwing around the term "cancel culture" is, consciously or not, peddling conservative propaganda. The phenomenon it represents is simply good old fashioned protest and boycott and is as old as civilisation itself, and is ubiquitous across the political spectrum. There is *no* difference whatsoever between students trying to stop fascists being invited to speak on university campus' and Christian conservatives trying to get "Life Of Brian" banned from cinemas, or the Sex Pistols banned from playing gigs. That is obvious with a moment's thought. The point of re-branding it as "cancel culture" is to try and depict it as something peculiar to the modern liberal-left, symptomatic of alleged intolerance and "snowflakiness". By demonizing it and making it an issue in the press all of a sudden, it allows the Right to marginalise and de-legitimise left-wing ideas and perspectives. That's its purpose.

Much the same is also true of "political correctness", which really has no meaning whatsoever outside of intra-Left discourse. When leftists criticise others on the Left for saying and doing things (generally racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic things) which contradict their professed egalitarian beliefs, then *that* is political correctness - and it is entirely legitimate too, I'd say. When leftists try to make those arguments to people outside of the Left, then that's just propaganda (also legitimate); in the vanishingly rare instances where leftists have sufficient power to *force* their ideas on people outside of the Left, that's just politics, and its legitimacy varies. The only difference here between the Left and Right is that, arguably, the Right has no moral dimension and so it really has no purpose in trying to encourage people to live up to their ideals, and consequently, the first instance (actual political correctness) is absent. The propaganda and political instances are very much the same though. Again, the purpose of the Right picking up and deploying the phrase is to de-legitimise the Left by presenting it as totalitarian and puritanical.

In summary, I think a large part of why we're getting so brutally fucked over here, and why the Left is unable to do anything about it, is that we're allowing the Right to frame the narrative and control the discourse. While leftist ideas are continually undermined, misrepresented and marginalised, right-wing ideas are allowed to pass unexamined, given a gloss of being "just common sense" as distinct from the high-flown and hare-brained notions of the Left. And key to this is the Right's weaponisation of language: buzz-phrases like "political correctness" and "cancel culture" are being systematically used to derail any opposition to this capitalist-fascist hellscape that we're sliding into. And I really don't know what to do about it. ☹️

Re: Whats going on.....

by Mr. Marty » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:57 pm

Hmm. Ok. Not sure any of this shit helps but I guess it does not matter now.
Wet cat. Grab it.

Re: Whats going on.....

by Lasagna Pirate » Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:18 am

Mr. Marty wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:23 pm
Lasagna Pirate wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:24 pm
Mr. Marty wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:53 pm It is a fcking distraction from the fast that they cannot stop the relief package in the Senate. This is the new Republican platform, no help for those that really need it but willing to piss and moan about something that is not under their control and provides no help or solice. They just want to instill fear and division. The COVID relief bill does not do that and they cannot stop it....so toss out bullshit and shinny objects.
That’s Neanderthal thinking.

I saw something referring to Neanderthals from the right wing propaganda channels but
Biden’s commented on Texas going fully open Was that it was “Neanderthal thinking”.
Does he even have a Twitter account? Jesus.

Re: Whats going on.....

by Lasagna Pirate » Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:12 am

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Re: Whats going on.....

by Trobador222 » Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:54 am

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Re: Whats going on.....

by wushuman » Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:43 am

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